Title: The Past Is A Foreign Country
Pairing/Characters: Black Canary, Huntress (Black Canary/Oracle, Black Canary/Green Arrow mentioned)
Rating: PG-13 to be safe
Disclaimer: Not mine, all DC's.
Author's Notes: Set sometime post-the current Birds of Prey arc. Maybe a little wangsty for Dinah, but I like when she's closetly wangsty. Title is a quote from LP Hartley: "The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there – but why is the past so different from the future? Why do we remember the past, but not the future?" Feedback welcome! I will grovel for it!
At first you thought it would be great. Perfect. What was not to like? You, Ollie, and the kids, all under one roof. The life of domestic bliss you had always, secretly, craved--that you had had, for a short time--and now you could have it again with the children you always wanted, children that needed you. Maybe even a little Lance-Queen with blond hair and blue eyes, too, although that was still far, far in the future. But you remember thinking that you had a future, now. You were both young again, so young (but still with whatever wisdom you'd managed to glean over the years), and this time you were going to get it right, make it work, make it last. You were going to make it, period, because Ollie had changed. And he has.
Only you forgot that you've changed, too, the kind of changes that can make a person into someone else. And while you love Ollie--always have, always will--you can't be with him anymore. Maybe the younger you could have; he's what you wanted in Seattle after things went wrong, before you became a Bird, before the JLA elected you chair, but not--not now.
It hurts to think what could have been. Your timing has always been shit. He is what you wanted what feels like forever ago, and you're what he wants now, and never the twain shall meet. (And Babs would probably die of shock if she knew you knew that expression.)
God, you're almost as melodramatic as Bruce and Selina. (Or Talia. Or whatever supervillainess he's shacked up with this week; he does tend to go through them at an alarming rate.)
You've both known for a long time. (Ollie, not Bruce, because...ew.) You still have sex marathons, but you don't talk anymore after, you both just roll over and go to sleep, and you're lonelier than you were when you slept next to his picture. Green Arrow and Black Canary are still as effective as ever, but he's stopped making his chili and you've been spending more and more time training with the JLA. You don't bring home different flower assortments every day, you don't call when you get caught up at work, and you can't remember the last time he called you Pretty Bird. He's been so preoccupied recently in the formation of his own little Justice League with Hal, and guiltily, you're glad he's gone. The silence doesn't echo so much when he's not around. You know Mia and Connor have picked up on it, that Roy has too, and you're just grateful that the first two aren't saying anything...and that Roy isn't chomping at the bit to kick Ollie's ass. Maybe he gets what you and Ollie and Connor and Mia all do, that it's no one's fault this time. Everyone's sad, but no one's angry, and it's almost, almost worse this way.
You have to give Ollie credit, though. He has changed if he's keeping it in his pants even as the two of you are falling apart. There is that, although you don't want to think about the possible repercussions on the JLA when the divorce is finalized, if he ever comes back to active duty and you're still the chair and Roy's still around. Things like that can tear a team apart. Some chairperson you've made. Not to mention the territory issues that are doubtless going to arise, what with Star City being so close....
Then again, you learned a long time ago to stop worrying about the future, because obsessing over it leads to much heartache, angst, and lack of humor. (Exhibit A: Batman.)
But first.
You don't bother with any quips or introductions, you just grab the man attacking Huntress from behind and ram him into the nearest wall. You hear cartilage splinter, blood splatter, and he goes down without any further movement.
Behind her mask, Helena's eyes widen for a split-second, and then the two of you are fighting like nothing's changed, like you never left. A blur of knees and elbows and fists, and then there's only one left. You flank him, and you swear he's about to wet himself as the two of you circle him.
You're content to slide back into the shadows as Helena finishes with him, calling the police with one of the crooks' cell. The two of you take to the rooftops as the first sirens start.
"Damn," Hel curses, and you look at her sharply. She's examining a small rip in her costume, on the bicep, and your brow furrows. You didn't see her get hit.
"It happened when you came out of nowhere," she mutters balefully, apparently reading your mind. You start to wonder if she's been hanging out with J'onn or Raven, and then you decide you need to start hanging out with normal people again. Then she looks up, and her eyes are hard. You brace yourself. You hadn't expected this to be easy. Helena Bertinelli is not a woman who takes abandonment lightly. Not with everything that happened after you left.
"Not that I'm not grateful for the assist, but since when are you haunting Platinum Flats? It's not your territory, as you made abundantly clear." You wince. That had not your best moment. At least you and Manhunter can be something approaching civil now, after Diana had introduced you two on the JLA's latest West Coast adventure.
"By the way, it was nice of you to tell us you're hanging around...you've obviously been spending some QT with Batman over in the JLA," and it's a little sharper than usual. A little territorial, a lot aggressive, and you can't help but smile. Helena's a Gotham girl through and through, but it looks like she's taken to being the guardian of Platinum Flats like a duck to water. Or a bird to the sky.
You feel a rush of pride in her, and practically tackle her with the force of your hug. "Hi sis," you whisper. She tenses, then relaxes into the hug, and when you finally pull away you're both smiling. You clear your throat.
"Well, if you remember, I did say I'd be back--"
Her eyes go unfocused then, one hand cutting you off as the other rises to her ear, and you know who's on the other end of the line. Just as as she's taken to Platinum Flats, Helena's obviously taken to being the Birds' unquestioned number one operative.
You smile. You always knew she had it in her. The next time a vacancy comes up in the League, you're going to make a strong case for her, Batman's opinions be damned. You can never have too many long-distance specialists.
Well. Assuming her boss doesn't object, anyway.
Helena's nodding and then her hand drops. "Oracle says hi," and her voice is noncommittal, and your heart freezes. You meet her eyes, and you can see that she knows just why Oracle is not being all "welcome home, lost sister!"
Welp. This is awkward.
"Tell her I say hi back," you say lamely, and Helena gives you her best "you dumbass" look, usually reserved for students whose best explanation is 'my dog ate it.' "What?" you demand, mock-offended, and just like that you are back on familiar ground, or as close to it as possible. It's not like you can spill your guts, all your hitherto repressed and un-admitted-to feelings, to Babs on top of a Platinum Flats building over Huntress' necklace, after all.
Good God, when did you turn into one of those emotionally stunted Bat people? You're almost as bad as Creote. Except more with the verbalizing. And less with the body hair.
"You two are worse than my kids," she mutters, shaking her head, and starts running. "Come on." You don't move, and after a moment, she slows and looks back at you. You're slightly in shock. It can't be this easy. That's it? Has Babs been abducted by aliens? Is Everyman impersonating her? Maybe you need to be careful the next time you turn your laptop on, that might be more her style....
"Has the bleach finally gone to your head? What are you waiting for?" she asks, tapping her foot. "We've got a drug shipment to bust across town and seven minutes to get there. Oh, excuse me, six minutes forty-seven seconds," and her rolling eyes make it obvious where the correction came from.
You have to smile at that. If Oracle is being anal over the little stuff, she can't be too pissed.
"We're good, then? I don't have to suffer any more to prove my remorse?" you ask, and it's facetious but not, and the question is not directed only at her. She rolls her eyes again in response, not waiting for the voice in her ear this time.
"Dio mio, you people. Would you come on? I want at least twenty seconds at the docks to catch my breath before we take these asshats on. I sound way more intimidating that way. Oh, and Oracle, you better have another necklace ready for Canary when we get back, because I'm not playing Monkey in the Middle again."
This time, when she starts running, you lope along with her, easily leaping to the next building.
"I feel obligated to tell you that you fail as a teacher," you tease. "This is not Monkey in the Middle. Not even close. Tell her I want a shorter chain this time." You pause thoughtfully. "Although, come to think of it, you have dated some pretty furry guys...."
"You married Green Arrow and his chin fuzz thing, you can't really talk about furry," she says breezily, and you almost choke. Oh, she's gotten good.
"Why do you think we're getting divorced?" It's light, and from her lack of reaction you know she knew already. Good. Less awkward that way.
Instead of answering, she glances at you, and her eyes are sparkling, and suddenly, you feel light. "By the way...Oracle says welcome back. And that you can help her pick out a chain when we get home tonight."
"A chain and ball, no doubt," you mutter, and Helena throws her head back and laughs.
You smile widely into the darkness, and you soar a little higher on your next jump.
Maybe soon, you'll be okay to start thinking about the future again.
Title: We Are Hard On Each Other
Pairing: Batwoman/Renee Montoya
Rating: R
Disclaimer: Not mine, all DC's.
Author's Notes: Set immediately post-52 #33. Because I like to pile onto these two, and I think their dynamic is very interesting. Title is from Margaret Atwood's amazing poem We are hard on each other. Because that is very much how I see Renee and Kate, or at least their first attempt at a relationship and their meetings in the first few issues of 52. Feedback welcome!
Kate jerks awake, not sure what startled her into wakefulness.
Blinking, she turns her head, feels her nose rub soft skin. She freezes before she remembers—that's right, she'd been holding Renee and staring out the window and trying not to think about the woman she's wrapped up with.
A woman whose best friend and mentor is dying, and who is so like the woman Kate left (had to leave) but more mature, a beautiful and vulnerable woman, a woman who is not in any shape to, to....
Kate swallows hard as her brain turns on and she realizes what woke her up. Renee's hand is under her shirt, stroking her stomach softly. Softly and knowingly, and her heart starts to pound in her chest. Without meaning to, she moves her head, nosing closer to Renee's jaw. Her lips graze Renee's neck. Renee stiffens; she's figured out that Kate's awake, obviously.
To Kate's surprise, Renee's hand doesn't stop. Instead, it curls upwards to the bottom of her ribcage, thumb drawing little circles. Kate's breathing starts to deepen. She pushes out and away, lifting her head and coming face-to-face with the detective.
"Renee—"
And suddenly she's being kissed. Kissed, in a way she hasn't been kissed for far too long, and she gives in for a moment, winding her arms around Renee's shoulders, feeling the tingle through her entire body. But she breaks away as Renee lowers her to the sofa, stretching out half on top of and half next to her.
"Renee, we can't," Kate gasps. "This is a bad idea. We've done this. It doesn't end well." Hoping against hope the other woman would relent, because Kate knows that if Renee really wanted this, wanted her, Kate won't stop her. Can't, really, not with her traitorous body that wants nothing more than to drag Renee down and kiss her senseless.
"Kate, I know we're not—" Renee shakes her head roughly. "We can't. I know. But it's Christmas. Just one night." She grins faintly before her expression turns serious and she traces Kate's cheek with her knuckle. "It is Christmas. The season of giving and all that. Consider it my present to you. Or me paying the rent." She mock-leers, then, and Kate has to chuckle. She knows Renee's not serious with the rent crack; she knows Kate would crack her upside the head the next time they fight if she were.
Renee always did have the best sense of humor of all Kate's girlfriends.
"Granted I never went to Sunday school, but I don't think what you have in mind has a lot to do with Jesus," Kate shoots back, and Renee gives her that grin—that warm, wry, embarrassed smile that Kate sometimes sees in her dreams and not enough in real life. She's still smiling as Kate, unable to help herself, draws Renee down into another kiss, crushing the detective to her, whimpering a little deep in her throat.
And this is a bad, bad idea, she thinks, even as her head instinctively falls back as Renee nips at the curve of her jaw, another whimper escaping her. She knows all about Renee, Renee and her booze and running away and her women (she'd lied when Renee had asked if Kate had been asking about her, of course Kate had asked, even as her father and stepmother gritted their teeth and clenched their fists in their napkins), and she knows she shouldn't let this happen. It's part of Renee's self-destructive cycle, the one she hates, and it's not good for her, either. Renee's broken her heart one too many times to be trusted, and letting her in like this, you can't do that without trust. Never mind that, in some ways, she trusts Renee more than she's ever trusted anyone else ever.
Never mind that something's telling her this could be different, could be for real. She can't afford to think like that. Not with Renee. Never mind that Renee has changed.
This all, of course, is really hard to articulate when Renee is licking her way down Kate's throat. Renee can do this little flicking thing with her tongue that's always driven Kate wild.
Renee makes a little sound of frustration as she comes to the neck of Kate's shirt and can't go any further. She drops both hands to the hem of the shirt, intending to lift it up, and Kate covers her hands with her own, stopping the detective.
"Renee..."
"Please, Kate. I need this." Renee's jaw clenches for a moment. "I need you. Please."
In the end, she gives in—God, she's always been a sucker for Renee and her wounded eyes and the desperate, lost note in her voice—and shrugs her shirt off. She has just enough time to appreciate what being Batwoman has done for her body before Renee is on her, over her, practically ripping her bra off and kissing her neck hard enough to bruise. Hm, apparently Renee likes what it's done for her body, too. Gonna need coverup tomorrow, Kate thinks as she unbuttons Renee's jeans, and damn, she shouldn't be this wet this soon. But it's been too long since the last time, so she thinks she can be forgiven for being more eager than a virgin on prom night.
And it is Renee, after all.
Things are just getting really, really good—Kate's got one leg wrapped around Renee's waist, clinging to the other woman, nails leaving long red scratches in Renee's back as they move and grunt together—when, even through their haze, they hear a loud crash.
It comes from Charlie's room.
In an almost comical moment, Renee throws herself back from Kate and they stare wide-eyed at each other before Renee, naked, vaults the sofa and disappears into the darkness. Kate, gasping, lies back, squeezing her eyes shut. She's panting and aching. She doesn't hear the sounds of a fight. She doesn't follow.
It's a long time before Renee comes back into the room, long enough for Kate to get cold and shrug back into her clothing. When Renee comes back, she's changed into sweatpants and a t-shirt, too, and Kate feels a fledgling hope die, one she hadn't even realized she'd had until now. For a moment, just a moment, her throat closes.
"Charlie fell out of bed," Renee explains tensely, sitting close enough to Kate to touch but still keeping a little bit of distance between them. How's that like our relationship, Kate thinks resentfully, and tries to feel bad after she thinks it. She doesn't quite succeed.
"He, uh," Renee looks away, running her hand through her hair. "He's been so active tonight. He couldn't get back in and it took me ages to lift him up, I upped his morphine so maybe he'll settle down now...." she laughs hollowly, body jerking, and then she's not laughing anymore, but her body is still jerking as she gives in to the sobs she's been fighting for days. She faces away from Kate, burying her head in her hands.
Kate hesitates for a moment, and then reaches out and puts a hand on Renee's back. Renee doesn't shrug her off, so the rest of her follows until she's hugging Renee from behind, forehead resting on Renee's shoulder, arms secure around Renee's middle as the detective cries.
Eventually, after the worst is over, Kate coaxes Renee to lie down. The detective falls asleep spooned against Kate, her back to Kate's front. Kate has a hand resting on her stomach, and Renee's fingers twine with Kate's in her sleep. It doesn't stop Renee from sleeping restlessly, though, and when Kate finally drifts off, she knows that even though this is the best she can do, it's not going to be nearly enough. Just like she can't catch Mannheim, just like she had to walk away from Renee the first time, just like she disappoints her parents every time she looks at another woman.
Three weeks later, she watches Renee walk away from her (again), and wonders why her best is never ever good enough.
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July 7 2008, 22:54:00 UTC 3 years ago
Great fics.
July 7 2008, 23:23:27 UTC 3 years ago
And, um, no, the bolding was totally a formatting error. This is me blushing. But it's fixed now, yay!
July 8 2008, 12:53:33 UTC 3 years ago
But, man oh man, the Renee/Kate just about slayed me. They are just so amazingly angsty. Lovely stuff.
July 8 2008, 16:48:16 UTC 3 years ago
Yeah, they are! I have this whole backstory in my head about them (which I'm sure will get demolished by Rucka's miniseries, heh) about how yeah, it was Kate that ended it ten years ago, but it was because Renee basically forced her into it, and secretive liasons in cheap motels, etc etc etc. These two don't know how to do anything easily or without angst, do they?
Thanks for reading, and I'm glad you liked it! :)
July 9 2008, 01:24:30 UTC 3 years ago
Renee's such a studmuffin. I don't blame the other girls, but meh. You have Kate, you idiot. You're a detective! Go detect.
Kate is awesome. But then, the Bat family does get you screwed up. (Although I have outbursts of love for Cass/Steph.)
I think I like your canon better.
July 9 2008, 01:50:35 UTC 3 years ago
Hah! Oh man, so true. Of the three, Bruce/Selina is the only one that I really think is even slightly feasible these days.
But to be fair, they sank in the harbor after they'd been on several sea voyages and sprung leaks that just couldn't be repaired.
Yeah, I wasn't exactly quite clear on what happened after 52. Renee shines the light into Kate's apartment, and they seem all prepared to have a relationship...and then in Crime Bible Kate says she hasn't seen Renee essentially since that night. So, like...did Renee really shine the light into her apartment and then leave? Because if so, that's almost adorable--that she got such bad nerves she couldn't follow through! I don't know, I think Rucka's intentions weren't at all clear there. (Granted, I didn't read Crime Bible #1, so maybe it's explained and I just missed it....) They are, at the very least, victims of exceedingly bad timing.
Renee and Kate are also just ridiculous on their own, too. I'm like, "okay, you're both still clearly in love with each other...what's the problem here, again?" It's so obvious and the two of them can't not know the other is still into them. But the wait is the delicious kind of torture. I'm just hoping Kate can stay out of the black hole of angst that is the Batfamily.
:)
July 9 2008, 02:15:42 UTC 3 years ago
Renee's in denial, doesn't want to hurt Kate. Kate doesn't want to get hurt either. OMG THE ANGST.
(There was no Renee/Kate in Crime Bible #1. So, you know, it's okay.)
Anyhow, may I friend you? *grin* You're pretty cool.
July 9 2008, 05:04:25 UTC 3 years ago
Don't remind me that Dinah is shackled to the village idiot. :\ Seriously, I really don't mind reading back scans of Dinah and Ollie during Grell's run--the run fundamentally shaped who both characters are, it was great art and writing, and the way he wrote Dinah and Ollie's relationship was very real. And I thought that their breakup was done PERFECTLY. It was so real, the disintegration of their relationship and just everything. So all the attempts to hook them up after have been crap, IMO. Because in real life, people don't get back together after things like that. Ollie may be Dinah's One True, but that doesn't mean they have to end up together. In fact, I think they work better as friends with a lot of history.
Renee's in denial, doesn't want to hurt Kate. Kate doesn't want to get hurt either. OMG THE ANGST.
Yeah, I agree Kate's definitely afraid of getting hurt again; as much as Renee says that Kate was the one who ended it, there's no denying Kate was just as hurt (maybe moreso) by the breakup, and I really get the vibe that Renee backed her into a corner where the only way out was a breakup. But she still clearly loves Renee, and ultimately I think she would give it another go.
Renee, OTOH, has a lot of things going. She has low self-esteem--for a variety of reasons, she doesn't think she's good enough for Kate. She's still finding her own way--it's really hard to try to (re)kindle a serious relationship when you don't know who you yourself are. There's the class thing--Renee is obviously hyperaware that Kate has a lot of very old money, and apprehensive about how she herself would fit into that world. So, like. I think that before they even think about having a relationship, Renee needs to get her shit straightened out, and then Kate can start getting over her Renee!issues.
Half the problem is that they're being set up as an OTP but we've seen very little of them NOT in a life-or-death situation (and we've seen little of Batwoman, period), especially after Renee lived at Kate's and they kissed at Christmas. Obviously they came to some sort of peace/healing with their issues, as the convo in Crime Bible #3 shows that they have moved onto a new set of issues, heh. Soooo we really need to see some shots of them just hanging out so we can get a handle on where they are now. I am optimistic the Batwoman mini (whenever it comes out) and Final Crisis: Revelations (starting in August) will deal with this stuff. Rucka's penning both, so....
(Do they even TALK ABOUT HOW RENEE LEFT KATE HANGING?)
Yes, friend away! I am all for new friends. :) Although I warn you--my lj is pretty much personal. I try to stay away from "fandom" at large and I'm just now getting into the DCU, anyways. I pick up Manhunter and Birds of Prey regularly, got a few BoP trades and back issues, most of Batwoman's appearances, and...that's pretty much it. I have an interest in Wonder Woman and Green Lantern, oddly enough (Kyle Rayner, though--no Hal Jordan for me, ech, which will make deciding whether or not to pick up the new Justice League title hard: Batwoman vs Ollie and Hal), I keep up with them on s_d, and have a tertiary interest in Nightwing, Robin, and the original Titans, pretty much.
July 9 2008, 05:16:32 UTC 3 years ago
(Do they even TALK ABOUT HOW RENEE LEFT KATE HANGING?)
NO THEY DON'T. Kate just says Renee disappeared. UGH, DC WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I haven't been this pissed with them since they killed off Knockout. *scowl* Stupid, stupid.
If you don't mind my ramblings regarding personal life and the occasional flocked overly gay posts (I'm closeted in RL), then I'd be absolutely spiffed if you friended me. I do fangirl a lot, though. *chuckle*
July 9 2008, 06:01:17 UTC 3 years ago
Oh man. Renee is totally the adolescent boy who doesn't even leave a note when he leaves for a year. HAHA. That's...too funny. And endearing. But I understand why Kate's majorly pissed.
Haha, that's cool, sounds about the same as me, though I rarely post anymore.
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July 13 2008, 06:28:18 UTC 3 years ago
"Yeah, they are! I have this whole backstory in my head about them (which I'm sure will get demolished by Rucka's miniseries, heh) about how yeah, it was Kate that ended it ten years ago, but it was because Renee basically forced her into it, and secretive liasons in cheap motels, etc etc etc. These two don't know how to do anything easily or without angst, do they?"
....Is there any chance you're going to write this out??? Also, I don't follow comics but what miniseries is coming out about them?
July 13 2008, 07:23:37 UTC 3 years ago
Also, yeah, I literally have found one other Kate/Renee fic. Which blows my mind, because seriously, CANON FEMSLASH. EVERYONE tries SO HARD to read that into tons of other relationshios. And yet, with one confirmed pairing, no one does ANYTHING with it. SHEESH.
Uh, well. So Final Crisis: Revelations will feature Renee (prominently) and Kate (at least in #2), so I plan on picking it up, it's only 5 issues. (#1 will be released next month.) There's also apparently a Batwoman LS being produced at the moment, and seeing that as of a month ago the first issue was lettered, I expect at least #1 to be released by the end of the year. And I'm assuming it would deal at least obliquely with Kate/Renee....
July 14 2008, 06:13:24 UTC 3 years ago
Please please tell me you'll write more fics with this pairing...With a cherry on top?
July 16 2008, 04:58:49 UTC 3 years ago
Haha, probably, although not in the next few weeks--things are crazy in RL right now. But thanks for the encouragement!
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October 26 2008, 04:18:02 UTC 3 years ago
Thank you! I probably will write more Kate/Renee, just not in the forseeable future (sadly). Probably once Final Crisis: Revelations is done, I'll see if there's anything to be done with them. Batwoman is supposed to feature in the new Justice League title and eventually a Batwoman LS is also supposed to come out, so hopefully in the next year or two Batwoman (and by extension Montoya) will get more play. (And I say that using any and all senses of the term. ;) ) I've also heard she appeared for like a page in Final Crisis, but I don't want to invest in that unless she does something really cool and doesn't just sit around....
October 26 2008, 04:33:45 UTC 3 years ago
I'm sorry to hear that there won't be more from you "in the foreseeable future" but as someone who used to write fanfic, I know how time-consuming it can be in addition to real life. kudos for any attempts that do come out, though :)
October 26 2008, 05:08:33 UTC 3 years ago
Haha. By forseeable future, I meant till the semester's over. Seeing as FC:R should be over in December, January might be prime fanfic writing time....
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One other thing that's been bugging me is their new character design. I liked each of them better when they had longer hair and Kate almost looks ill with the dark circles under her eyes--not a fan of her new wardrobe or tattoos either.
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I was also pretty happy to see the back story on these two when they were first together--now if only they could reconcile once and for all. Their scenes in 52 (Week #33, 36 and 48) made it obvious that they still love each other. It doesn't seem like Renee is still drinking like she used to and Kate can't hide in the proverbial closet anymore, so they're only holding themselves back by hooking up with new girlfriends. Lol, this is one of those times I wish I could lock two people in a room until they kissed and made up, so to speak. ^_^